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Eloise Tomkins: Hello, welcome to another episode of the rich woman rising. Podcast I'm your host, Eloise Tompkins and I love to help women regulate their nervous system so that they can hold and make more money with ease, so that making money is effortless because you're not stressed out, overwhelmed, anxious. And it just feels super fun and easy, and
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Eloise Tomkins: the thing is, I know that talking about the nervous system is not all that glamorous and not all that sexy, but it is also such a foundational part of
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Eloise Tomkins: money. And it's something that we don't talk about, because it's not.
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Eloise Tomkins: It doesn't really feel like we're doing anything.
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Eloise Tomkins: and as high achievers we like to do. We like to feel as though we are getting shit done totally get it. And the thing is, though nervous system work. You actually are doing a lot. You are doing so much. You just don't realize that you're doing it because it happens gradually. And I was reminded of that this weekend where
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Eloise Tomkins: I went to a festival. Now
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Eloise Tomkins: I am not a camping person I have discovered. I would love to be. I honestly, I love the idea of camping, and I love being out in nature having a fire sitting around the fire with friends all of that kind of stuff, but
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Eloise Tomkins: getting dirty, having dirt on me, having leaves stick to you, not having cleaned feet, not having a toilet that flushes. Oh, my gosh! Like camping in theory sounds great. But
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Eloise Tomkins: can I sleep in a little cabin that has all the amenities? Yes, please. Anyway, that wasn't the case. This weekend. I did not have the amenities, at least not right next to me. But let me rewind a little bit even further, because before I even got to the festival.
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Eloise Tomkins: I had decided that in order to be as comfortable as possible, I was going to hire a camp event. Now. The reason that I decided to hire a camp event is because, as much as I would love to be a camping person.
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Eloise Tomkins: I know that I'm not, and I've had to come to terms with that. I've had to accept this part of myself just like I've had to accept that. I'm not a night person. I'm not a morning person. I'm a night person, and even though I would desperately love to be a morning person, I thrive better at night.
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Eloise Tomkins: So, knowing this about myself, I'm like, okay.
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Eloise Tomkins: I know that if I have more comfort in the camper van, have a little fridge where I can put some food and drink in there that's going to be cold. I'm going to be at least a little bit more comfortable, which is going to help make my experience a little more enjoyable, which is going to help me. And my stress levels, you know, like, just all my nervous system like, it's just going to help me
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Eloise Tomkins: have the best experience possible.
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Eloise Tomkins: And so these are decisions that I made for myself, because I know myself. I know my nervous system. I know
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Eloise Tomkins: what I prefer.
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Eloise Tomkins: and when you're able to look after yourself and meet your needs. Then it just helps provide that buffer right? And so I knew that.
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Eloise Tomkins: So I was super excited. I organized my camper van.
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Eloise Tomkins: I go and pick it up.
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Eloise Tomkins: On the day that I was leaving for the festival
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Eloise Tomkins: that went off without a hitch. Grab my van, chuck my dog in the car in the van and drop him off at a friend's place, and then, as I dropped my dog off at the friend's place. I get back in my van.
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Eloise Tomkins: turn the ignition on white smoke starts puffing up from the engine, and I'm like, Huh!
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Eloise Tomkins: That's probably not great.
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Eloise Tomkins: But I put my foot on the accelerator and thought, oh, you know what? Maybe it's just warming up.
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Eloise Tomkins: No, I get 200 meters down the road, and the smoke gets smokier, and there is a burning smell, and I'm like, Oh, this is not good.
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Eloise Tomkins: So I immediately pull over message. The owner of the Camper Van. I'm like, Hey, he comes. He was like, Yeah, you are definitely not going to be able to drive this. He's like, it's not your fault, you know it was a mechanical breakdown. Something gave like some beltless I don't know. I don't even know, gave in the van. And he's like, Yeah, you are not going to be able to drive this. He's like, I'm so sorry, but you know
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Eloise Tomkins: you can't like. There's no way that you can drive this. So I was like, fuck.
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Eloise Tomkins: What am I going to do?
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Eloise Tomkins: And part of me was obviously stressed.
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Eloise Tomkins: But then another part of me was like, Okay, so what am I going to do? How am I going to solve this problem? And looking back on that
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Eloise Tomkins: past me would have absolutely snowballed into? Oh, my God! This is the worst thing ever you have ruined my weekend. I would have been so mad at the guy, even though it wasn't his fault I would have
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Eloise Tomkins: I don't know. I probably would have canceled the whole weekend and be like fuck. This like this is too overwhelming. My nervous system would have completely flooded, and it would have made a mess of everything. And look! Don't get me wrong. I was stressed, and I called my friend
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Eloise Tomkins: in a bit of a panic, and I'm like, Oh, my God! This has happened! What do I do? What do I do? I don't. I don't camp. I don't want to camp. I don't have any camping gear, like, I'm like, what do? I don't know. What do I do?
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Eloise Tomkins: And my friends rallied around and they were like, okay, so we have a mattress. We have spare area in our tent. You'll be okay. We will make this work.
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Eloise Tomkins: And because of all the work that I've done. On being able to regulate my nervous system.
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Eloise Tomkins: I was able to slow things down. I was able to breathe, and I was able to think
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Eloise Tomkins: somewhat clearly, maybe not in that exact moment, because when I spoke to my friend later, she was like Ellie, I was talking to you, and like nothing I was saying was going in like, Yeah, I was pretty overwhelmed in that moment. I was trying really hard not to cry.
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Eloise Tomkins: But the thing is like when
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Eloise Tomkins: you have a regulated nervous system, right? It's not about bypassing the stress. And I think this is something that we can think with our nervous system, right? We think that it's about bypassing the stress. Oh, you're just not going to get stressed ever. And you're going to be
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Eloise Tomkins: Zen, you know, and just like, Oh, it doesn't matter. It doesn't bother me. No, the thing is with a regulated nervous system.
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Eloise Tomkins: You don't bypass the stress. You just don't become the stress. There's a difference old me would have completely spiraled, and I would have. I don't even know. I don't even know what I would have done. You know that maybe I would have been like fuck. This I'm not coming for the weekend, and then I would have, you know, stayed at home and
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Eloise Tomkins: cried, and be like, oh, they're all having fun without me. My life is shit, everything's shit
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Eloise Tomkins: or I might have gone, and then just had a shit weekend, but what I actually did
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Eloise Tomkins: was I got in my car. I packed up my car
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Eloise Tomkins: and I went home, and I grabbed a few extra bits and pieces that I thought I might need.
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Eloise Tomkins: and made it to the festival.
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Eloise Tomkins: and my friends had a few bits and pieces that I borrowed.
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Eloise Tomkins: I slept in my car for the weekend
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Eloise Tomkins: in the back of my car, and I put it like one of my friends had a mattress that I could put in there like a blow up mattress.
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Eloise Tomkins: and I slept on that.
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Eloise Tomkins: and it was fine, and I was lying in my car, and I thought to myself.
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Eloise Tomkins: How lucky am I that I'm able to afford this car that I can sleep in! How lucky am I that I've got friends who rallied around and helped me. How lucky am I that I have been able to come away on this weekend, and my friends checked in on me over the weekend they're like, How are you going? You know. I know it's been a bit of a stressful weekend for you. I'm like, yeah, you know what? It was a bit stressful yesterday, but
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Eloise Tomkins: it is what it is. I'm just rolling with it, and
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Eloise Tomkins: that is a regulated nervous system, because it doesn't have to take over absolutely everything. Now, it also wasn't just that right, like there were other stuff that went wrong over the weekend.
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Eloise Tomkins: including, like the camper van, was the biggest one, because I had no food
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Eloise Tomkins: that I could take with me because it was all refrigerated. And I didn't want to bring my esky because just logistical reasons, and
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Eloise Tomkins: there was a lot there was a lot. But then my car battery died on the way home, like because I left on all weekend. I had my key in the ignition. I wasn't thinking I'm not a camper. Okay, I'm not a camper.
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Eloise Tomkins: My friends afterwards were like, why did you do that, and I'm like, I don't know. I was trying to charge my phone like I just left my car on.
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Eloise Tomkins: I didn't think it had drained the battery thankfully around a group of Lesbians. Stereotypes exist for a reason, because one of them had a 4 wheel drive with battery, pack and boom. She fixed it immediately, and I was like, Thank you. So things worked out. But
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Eloise Tomkins: even though everything had snowballed and piled up like there was the Spa broke down. We went to go to the Spa. That broke down like there was just a lot that
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Eloise Tomkins: didn't go the way it was meant to over the weekend, and what I recognized is that
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Eloise Tomkins: even though there were moments where I wasn't calm when I spoke to my friend, and I was just like oh.
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Eloise Tomkins: very dysregulated in that moment.
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Eloise Tomkins: It didn't mean that I lost my capacity to enjoy my weekend. It didn't mean that I got swept away by that stress. It didn't mean that
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Eloise Tomkins: this stress was who I had become right. It just meant that I had space space between the trigger
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Eloise Tomkins: and which was the van and the white puffy smoke.
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Eloise Tomkins: And how I reacted, how I chose to respond in those moments, and
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Eloise Tomkins: that is regulation, and that is powerful, because when you can see it happening in real time, and a lot of my clients will talk about it like Oh, I look back, and
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Eloise Tomkins: I wish I did. XY, and Z. Regulation is about being able to in the moment do
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Eloise Tomkins: that thing that you wish you did in the moment.
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Eloise Tomkins: and it's not always going to be perfect, and you still might look back and go like you know. I
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Eloise Tomkins: I don't even remember this. My friend told me this later. She's like when you're on the phone with me. You you're a bit snappy. And I was like, Oh, my gosh! Was I am! I'm so sorry she's like it's all good. I get it. You were really stressed and really overwhelmed. She's like you weren't snappy at me. You were snappy because there was a lot going on. You were trying to understand things. So I'm really lucky to have such amazing friends.
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Eloise Tomkins: But it was just interesting, because in the moment I thought I was. I was trying my hardest to just be calm and regulated
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Eloise Tomkins: as best I could in that moment, and then to kind of hear afterwards. It was like, No, no, you're actually, you know, pretty stressed and irritable. And I'm like, Oh, well, that's interesting, because, had I have not been aware of my responses, I probably would have been even more irritable, and probably not very nice. Right? So, having that awareness help
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Eloise Tomkins: so much, it helped to maintain my connection with my friend, and this is where I talk about regulation is not just money like there's so much to it. But
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Eloise Tomkins: the festival itself was
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Eloise Tomkins: incredible, aside from the dirty feet and the camping and the wasps. But it was incredible, and was spending
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Eloise Tomkins: 3 days in nature was so good for the soul. But one thing I noticed
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Eloise Tomkins: was how loud the energy of scarcity was.
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Eloise Tomkins: It was everywhere now.
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Eloise Tomkins: as I was walking and being around the stages, listening to performers, even listening to my friends like
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Eloise Tomkins: the performance on stage when the Mcs were on stage, they would say things like, Oh, we're camping because we're poor.
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Eloise Tomkins: Put your hand up if you're poor. And everyone laughed, and people put their hands up right. And it wasn't just one comment like, I heard this across multiple stages in various kinds of formats like we. There was another one where some people were glamping. Other people were camping, and you know a joke was made about how the glampers had more money, and the campers, like they were pointed out. And like you were the poor ones, aren't you
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Eloise Tomkins: hands up over there. If you're poor
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Eloise Tomkins: and look, I get that. It's jokes right.
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Eloise Tomkins: However, it's really interesting to reflect on this, as a society money
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Eloise Tomkins: and scarcity is everywhere. Even my friends, right?
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Eloise Tomkins: They noticed something that I owned. And I'm like, Oh, that's expensive, that that brand's really not cheap. I'm like, Oh, yeah.
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Eloise Tomkins: I guess and it's just this.
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Eloise Tomkins: these small little comments that people make
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Eloise Tomkins: around money, whether it's their body language, whether it's their tone of voice, or
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Eloise Tomkins: even like subtle competition, you know, around like one of my friends had a really nice car. And just like little comments around, oh.
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Eloise Tomkins: how can you afford that like just these little things? And it's not that people were necessarily talking overtly about money, but it was just everywhere, subtle, subtle comments, constant, and it was unchecked like in the sense that nobody was aware. Right? It was just that. These are our beliefs, these, collectively, are our beliefs like, oh, we don't have money, there's not enough. And
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Eloise Tomkins: it made me realize that this is how
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Eloise Tomkins: our unconscious beliefs around money show up. We have these beliefs about
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Eloise Tomkins: how much money we can hold, and
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Eloise Tomkins: there's this expectation that we're not going to be able to make more of it. We've got this limited supply of it. And things are expensive, or you're poor. And
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Eloise Tomkins: it's this deep embedded in our culture.
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Eloise Tomkins: Because
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Eloise Tomkins: and this is like what dysregulation around money looks like right because it's normalized. It's so normalized for us to. Oh, we don't have money. We're poor. This is just our life, doesn't it suck? And it's like, well, hang on a minute. No, I mean, have you ever thought that you could change your circumstances if you wanted to?
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Eloise Tomkins: Have you ever thought that you could do something different about your circumstances. Have you ever thought that it doesn't have to be this way?
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Eloise Tomkins: You you can, if you want to change your circumstances. And
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Eloise Tomkins: I just find that fascinating because
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Eloise Tomkins: there isn't that mentality. There isn't that mindset. And I think that's what makes entrepreneurs different, right? Because we do have a different mindset. We do have a different way of thinking.
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Eloise Tomkins: and we do have a different way of thinking about money as well.
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Eloise Tomkins: But we also get caught in that societal lens as well. Because if this is, if this is what I was noticing in just a 3 day weekend.
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Eloise Tomkins: and I noticed that like this is my job, right? Like. And I'm a psychologist like, I observe human behavior. I can't help myself. My brain is just very analytical, and I love it. I find it fascinating.
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Eloise Tomkins: So I see this stuff, and I share it with you because what I want you to be aware of, or what I invite you to think of is.
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Eloise Tomkins: how are the subtle ways that you talk about money.
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Eloise Tomkins: or what are the things that you notice about money, and how it's spoken about in your environment.
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Eloise Tomkins: with the people that you love, with the people that are around you, with your friends.
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Eloise Tomkins: with the circles that you find yourself in with your partner
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Eloise Tomkins: because those conversations are going to influence you, whether you realize it or not, and what we want to do
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Eloise Tomkins: is bring that into awareness. We want to bring your
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Eloise Tomkins: awareness to these topics, because when you become aware of it.
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Eloise Tomkins: that is, when you get to be able to choose how you respond, and then you can regulate your responses, your nervous system around that right? Because at the moment when we're not aware of it, we go along for the ride
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Eloise Tomkins: like
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Eloise Tomkins: when they were talking about at the festival, you know. Ha! Ha! You're camping. You're poor and everyone's laughing.
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Eloise Tomkins: I didn't laugh I was like, no, I don't subscribe to that. No.
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Eloise Tomkins: I get that. It's a joke, and I wasn't standing there like sullenly like you're a dickhead, but I was just like you know what? No, I'm conscious that that's not my narrative to hold. It's not my collective narrative to hold. And
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Eloise Tomkins: no, I don't want to subscribe to that. So
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Eloise Tomkins: this is where the whole concept of regulation and
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Eloise Tomkins: conscious awareness come into it, because the more that we can notice how our experiences
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Eloise Tomkins: of money show up day to day, the more that we can actually begin to shift them. But if we're not aware of them we can't shift them right? So that's why I wanted to share my story with you, because
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Eloise Tomkins: there was a point where I would have been completely unaware
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Eloise Tomkins: and unaware of my own emotional reaction and responses.
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Eloise Tomkins: and then subsequently unaware of how that would have impacted my friends.
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Eloise Tomkins: probably wouldn't have cared because I wouldn't have known.
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Eloise Tomkins: and then wondered why I would have had a shit weekend
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Eloise Tomkins: right? So, being able to regulate being able to see the bigger picture being able to hold that space for that stress because it was stressful. I'm not going to sit here and say I wasn't stressed. I was stressed. It was shit.
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Eloise Tomkins: but it didn't consume me because I have a regulated nervous system. I know how to do that. I was able to breathe. I was able to pause. I was able to slow down the responses. And the way that I did that is, by intentional daily practice. Right? It's not a Oh, cool. I now know about regulation. And I'm going to do that when I'm stressed. You know.
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Eloise Tomkins: that doesn't happen. It's actually quite funny, because I will have clients, particularly my psychology clients where we'll do some work, and they'll have this massive light bulb moment, and they're like, Oh, my goodness, I've just uncovered. I can see it clearly, now, I'm like, awesome. They're like, yeah. So the next time that I get stressed, I'm going to do XY and Z. And I'm not going to respond in that way. And I'm like, Okay, let's
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Eloise Tomkins: dial that back just a little, and they look at me, and they're like I have jumped ahead 10,000 steps, haven't I? And I'm like, maybe so we kind of rein it back a little bit. I think it's quite cute, actually, because they get so excited. They're like, yes, I just want to do the things I'm like. Let's just pull this back.
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Eloise Tomkins: because it a knowledge isn't enough. Right.
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Eloise Tomkins: Knowledge is not enough when it comes to regulation. It is an embodied practice, and
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Eloise Tomkins: I was thinking about this, even me a couple of years ago would have responded differently to me. This weekend and me in 2 more years would probably time in the future will probably respond a different way. Right? So we're constantly evolving. And I love that like, how cool is that that we're constantly evolving. But regulation is
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Eloise Tomkins: small. It's small micro moments. Oh, God, I talk about micro moments a lot because it is. It's like an investment account, right? Like you put money in. And you don't get like your
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Eloise Tomkins: $10,000 interest overnight that accumulates and compounds over time. It's like nervous system regulation. It accumulates over time, and it requires small moments that build up and up and up and up and up, and eventually you look back at a situation like this weekend, and you go. Wow! How cool was that? And
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Eloise Tomkins: the thing is with regulation like you can learn it right and
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Eloise Tomkins: often. It is a piece. That is the missing piece, right? Because when your nervous system is
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Eloise Tomkins: regulated like you learn that it's not about the van blowing up. It's not about
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Eloise Tomkins: all of the things that went wrong. The car battery dying. It's not about the conversations around money. It's about what happens when my nervous system, your nervous system, is no longer fighting against you. It's working with you, and that's what happens when you're no longer afraid of money, even when you have it. And this is why I've created regulate to riches, because
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Eloise Tomkins: I see so many women who
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Eloise Tomkins: experience this right like that. They have that sense of
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Eloise Tomkins: feeling at war with their nervous system and feeling like, Oh, my goodness, it's just impossible for me. And I've created regulate to riches, which is a 28 day program that helps give you all of my favorite regulation tools, tips, and tricks that can help you stay grounded in different moments. And
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Eloise Tomkins: I have worked through all of the tools in the regulated to riches program because
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Eloise Tomkins: I don't all of the stuff that I share with my clients is all stuff that I've tried. Not all of it is my favorite stuff, for sure.
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Eloise Tomkins: but I've tried it
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Eloise Tomkins: because I think that's important. I think you know, if I'm going to offer something to someone, I want to have tried it myself, and I certainly have some of my favorite tools and tricks and tips that I love for myself. Breathing is one of them for me. I really like to just pause and take a breath when I feel overwhelmed
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Eloise Tomkins: for me. That's a really nice anchor point. But if you do want to get a little bit of a taster as to what the fuck I'm talking about when I speak about regulation, and what that looks like
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Eloise Tomkins: regulate to riches is the perfect starting point for you, because it really is
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Eloise Tomkins: simple, actionable tools. And there's 28 days worth where you can find the tools that work for you, not only that, it also talks you through your subconscious, your nervous system, your money blocks as well. So you get to learn more about where your nervous system is currently at with money as well. So there's an educational component in there. And the thing that I made that I love most about it is I made this program so that it's digestible.
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Eloise Tomkins: 10 to 15 min episodes, because I realized that you know we're busy people. I don't know about you, but I'm busy, and I'm guessing you are, too, which is why I made it super accessible, so that you're not, you know, having to spend hours and hours and hours
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Eloise Tomkins: doing the work to regulate and to learn about regulations. So I'm going to pop that in the show notes for you, if you're interested, because those are absolutely the tools that really got me through this
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Eloise Tomkins: weekend, and get me through my moments and help anchor me when I do feel overwhelmed. So go check that out and I hope that you found this episode enjoyable, and despite all of that, I actually did have a really good weekend. I loved hanging out with my friends.
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Eloise Tomkins: And felt so this sounds so, Corny, but I did. I felt really blessed to be able to have friends who were able to support me when
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Eloise Tomkins: shit hit the fan. So that was really cool. I have decided I'm still not a camper, but it was fun. I loved being out in nature. It was really good fun, and the festival was awesome as well. So yeah, I'll pop the link for regulate to riches for you below to go and check out.
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Eloise Tomkins: have a fantastic week, and I cannot wait to share another episode of the podcast with you next week. So until then, take care of yourselves, and I'll chat with you all next week. All right, bye.